Thursday, April 18, 2013

So what exactly is an acceptable form of support for men?

A few days ago I questioned exactly why the Ryerson Student Union created new rules for the purpose of blocking a group that students were trying to form for the sake of supporting and helping men. More than likely I'll never get a satisfactory answer to that question (well the satisfactory answer is that some people simply want men silenced, so maybe I should say I'll get an answer that's just) so I have a new question, which is the title of this post.
What is an acceptable form of support for men?
We've seen before that when it comes to helping men there's not just the reasonable expectations of making sure not to silence the voices of others or taking away support from others. Those expectations make perfect sense because no one group of people should get support that comes at the detriment of others.

On the other hand as Ryerson Student Union has shown us even when those expectations are met that's still not good enough.

I've had conversations with feminists who have clearly said that merely talking about helping men outside of feminism is inherently harmful to women.

I've been told that men have never been silenced and thus it is okay to shut out their attempts to speak up and make spaces for themselves.

We see efforts by organizations where they push against something that would be beneficial to both men and women by presuming the worst case scenario of men represents all men (but oddly they don't presume the same of women).

I'm really starting wonder if there is an answer to such a question that can please enough people on all sides.

Is there any form of support for men that can actually make room for men's own voices that doesn't do anything to limit the voices of others?

Feel free to answer in the comments.