Saturday, July 23, 2011

First question about porn

Okay there's been a lot of heated discussion over at the Good Men Project this week about porn (one, two, three, and four and those just the ones I could immediately find). Well I need to take a moment to clear some thoughts about it.

Hypothetical question time!

Let me describe a porn scene.

The scene is of a two having sex. One is on top of the other pinning the other's hands down. The one on top is talking dirty and giving commands to the one on the bottom. Its very clear that the one on top is in a position of dominance over the one on the bottom.

My question to you is this. Do you find that scene to be degrading to the person on the bottom, and by extension degrading to people of any demographics that person may be a part of? Why or why not?

Yes I intentionally gave no description of the two people. I want a clean slate answer so I asked a clean slate question. If you insist on describing the two people feel free to do so in any way you wish (gender, orientation, race, etc...). But if you add in descriptions in your answer I hope you back up your answer about why your answer applies to the description you add.

I have an answer to that question but I'll come back with that in another post in a few days.

5 comments:

Clarissa said...

If both participants are consenting adults, there is nothing "degrading" about this scenario.

The only culture that uses the word "degrading" to refer to sex is a deeply puritanical one.

Meticulous Mouser said...

I have to agree with Clarissa...there isn't anything degrading about it if both participants are consenting adults. Power play in sex is a turn-on for some people. As long as the participants are cool with it, I see no problem with it. Besides, we all have our kinks.

James said...

Well, if that person being held down wants to be held down, then they must have enough value as a person to get what they want. So yeah...

DaisyDeadhead said...

"Do you find that scene to be degrading to the person on the bottom, and by extension degrading to people of any demographics that person may be a part of?"

What is the context? Is the top wearing a uniform? If so, that implies rape, meaning the "porn story" is about rape and therefore degrading. (i.e. cop uniform, priest uniform, soldier uniform, implies authority above and beyond simply being a male) Any racial difference, makes it instantly ugly, no matter how you slice it (pardon expression).

Only if the two people are roughly socially "equal"--i.e. same social class, race, size, age (esp if the two are implied to be teenagers, as is common in porn), is it a harmless romp. When you start introducing other social factors, it can get dicey fast.

Or should I say, it "triggers" people, and that is what gets everyone so upset.

Danny said...

What is the context? Is the top wearing a uniform? If so, that implies rape, meaning the "porn story" is about rape and therefore degrading. (i.e. cop uniform, priest uniform, soldier uniform, implies authority above and beyond simply being a male) Any racial difference, makes it instantly ugly, no matter how you slice it (pardon expression).
I kept it as context free as possible (and didn't mention genders) for just that reason to show you just can't blanketly call something degrading.

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