Tuesday, March 29, 2011

Oh its only because they are white?

I suppose this goes to show you that there are some feminists that just are not willing to own up to the female parts of white female privilege.

First comment:
Here’s my question:
Why call it “white female privilege?” White men also have a sense of entitlement when they’re saying crazy shit.

I’m not sure the tendency to “forgive”/ignore her views because she’s “hot” is a form of privilege. It seems like the same phenomenon we see when progressive views are “forgiven”/ignored in favor of attention to the speaker’s body.

Notice how the first part of the comment is basically pining about how white men having a sense of entitlement (which feminists have no problem calling out when they can make it about them being white men) supposedly cancels out the sense of entitlement that white women have.

Check out the next section "I'm not sure the to 'forgive'/ignore her views because she's 'hot'" is a form of privilege.

Nice scare quotes there. Okay simply put its a matter of treating a person a certain way because of some characteristic that really has no relation to the topic at hand.

You know I'm really sick of people trying to jump through hoops, side step, explain away, and anything else they can do in order to avoid the existence of female privilege. Its not benevolent sexism. Its not "gender discrimination". Its not some other nonsense. Its a matter of unfair advantages that are bestowed upon women as a group because of the fact that are women.

Auto-trust with children because they are women? Privilege. Yes there is the unfair presumption that women must be good with kids but since such unfair presumptions don't wash out male privilege (like that popular item that men are privilege when it comes to getting into leadership positions, funny how no one thinks about the fact that its presumed to the point of tease and ridicule for not going for leadership positions when shouting about it from the mountain) why should that be the case when talking about women?

Look I'm all for getting rid of all the damaging things that harm the various walks of life but it will never happen as long we have women (or anyone for that matter) that think they are immune to privilege because they are women.

But nevermind my ranting you should go check out Renee. She's has been fired up and she's burning it wild fire style.

4 comments:

Tim said...

I always get the feeling that privileges are portraid a little too singlesided.

Quite a few kinds of privileges can backfire easily and pose only an advantage for you when the assumption it takes about you is true. Take your example of trustworthiness with children. Or when someone assumes you, as a man, knows how to change tire. If you are actually good with children or a handyman, such assumptions about you can be an advantage.

But what if you aren't ?

Endless Summer said...

If someone were to assume I know how to change their tyre, I would totally give it my best shot. It would be entertaining for me and would probably teach them a valuable lesson. I'm not going to suggest the same thing about looking after children, t'course.

Danny said...

If someone were to assume I know how to change their tyre, I would totally give it my best shot.
That's cool if you decide to do that.

My problem is that if you didn't try there's a chance you would be branded a jerk because you didn't do what a "real man" would do.

Danny said...

Quite a few kinds of privileges can backfire easily and pose only an advantage for you when the assumption it takes about you is true. Take your example of trustworthiness with children.
Just my point Tim. I agree that the discussion on privilege is very one sided.

And what really bothers me is related to what you mention.

Take your example of trustworthiness with children. Or when someone assumes you, as a man, knows how to change tire. If you are actually good with children or a handyman, such assumptions about you can be an advantage.
In your example here there are a lot of people who would say that that man is privileged for being assumed to know how to change a tire but then fight tooth and nail that a woman that's assumed to be good with children is not privileged, oh no she's being burdened by a sexist/misogynist stereotype.

How can it change from privilege to burden when the only difference is the gender and act?

And in the event that you are not good at that task then you're just "not a real ___". That's why people look down on women that aren't good with children and men that can't fight.

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